Posts archive for: December, 2006
  • Salvaton is Like Weight Loss

    Have you ever joined the gym? Have you ever tried to follow a certain diet? Like you, my answer is a resounding yes many times over! The media is constantly reminding us that we are in the midst of an obesity epidemic and that the solution is to basically lose weight. For those like myself who fit into the 'big' category, the most obvious way to go about shedding those excess kilograms is to join a gym and follow a diet formula like the Atkins diet or weight watchers etc. The media constantly presents us with success stories of people who are transforming their lives by following a certain diet or going to a certain gym.

    Of course there are some home truths that the health industry does not present. The first is that it is very easy for people to lose weight. The second is that over 90% of people rapidly put the weight back on. The third and most under reported fact is that fluctuating weight puts enormous stress on the human body and is one of the most effective methods of reducing one's life span, right up there with obesity in fact! Several weeks ago, there was an article in the Sydney Morning Herald about the results of a long term study on that very rare group of people who successfully lost and then kept off their weight permanently. The researchers made a surprising discovery in their observation of those who had 'succeeded in maintaining their weight loss.The researchers found that only 14% of those who had succeeded had followed a diet / exercise programme or method such as Atkins, weight watchers etc etc. On the other hand 86% joined no gym or followed no weight loss programme. The key to permanent weight loss was not the right plan, or knowledge of nutrition and exercise, but being self motivated. Self motivation overcame all obstacles and ignorance. Self motivation often came from an event that shook the person out of the status quo they were living in and motivated them forward.

    Like the health business, we Christians are obsessed with finding successful programmes and systems to see more people come to be followers of Jesus Christ. We can be blinded by the shininess and apparent success of the Mega churches we see on the television and the evangelism programmes that are currently popular along with the stories of their success in bringing thousands 'to Christ' that we try and adapt them ourselves. How often are we disappointed when the programme or the plan does not live up to our expectations?
    The reality is that it is easy to get people to say yes to Jesus, just like it is easy to get people to the gym or to start a new diet (just look at the millions of diet books sold!) The reality though is that no matter how easy we make it for people to respond to Christ, over 70% have fallen away in two weeks and a significantly higher figure than that after a year (can you see the connection to weight loss?). I personally have some concerns about this. One is that the large number of New Zealanders who are walking around having said the sinners prayer may be under the illusion that they have it all covered when they die. Or they may think that they have experienced all that God / Church has to offer and will be so much harder to connect with later (I have experienced this). My biggest concern is that these programmes sometimes make us as Christians feel happy and satisfied that we are seeing people responding to Christ (especially if it is connected with our organisation). When at university I was very involved with a large church that saw significant numbers of people responding 'to Christ'. It gave me a sense of real achievement and fruitfulness being part of that. It was only when I left the church that I had to confront the fact that during that whole period I had done next to nothing in regards to being personally fruitful, I was just going along for the ride.
    Like those that succeeded in long term weight loss, the best way to see people become fully devoted followers of Jesus Christ is if they are truly self motivated. Self motivation overcomes all obstacles and ignorance. We call these self motivated people SELF FEEDING.

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    Paul Scanlon, a well known Pastor in the United Kingdom, remarked that no one needed to chase him up or disciple him when he became a Christian, though he was only 16 and from a non Christian family. The church he was attending used to move from hall to hall. Often Paul would turn up at Church to discover that it was not there and he would have to hop on his bike and cycle around the city looking for his church (he often wondered if they were avoiding him!). He was so hungry for God that he consumed his Bible and turned up unannounced at every service, prayer meeting and small group. He once turned up at a meeting to be quietly taken aside to be told that it was actually an elders meeting! That's self feeding!

    We cannot manufacture or mass produce self feeding Christians (except by the Holy Spirit moving sovereignly). The two most vital ingredients are not influenced by us. The first is that somehow the person needs to have an encounter with the living Christ. The second is that they need to be self motivated (not motivated by there friend, group etc). It also helps if we are doing three things. Living our lives consistently with our beliefs. Listening to Gods quiet voice. Not being too busy and having time for people.

    Besides self motivation there is perhaps one other key which I believe has a significant impact on turning a 'convert' into a self feeding Follower. That key is being prepared to open your home to let those who are new to the faith to live with you for a certain period of time. Sharing life together has an incredibly transforming effect on those starting out on the journey. This also holds true for teaching and training also. People sometimes ask me what Organic believers do in regards to training and discipleship. An open home to me is the best Bible College and training centre in the world, and seemed to work in the New Testament funnily enough. The only negative is that we have to be sacrificial to do it!
    (Okay I wrote this in Sept 2005, but I'm slacking)

  • Death of a Brain

    I have been struggling to post anything exciting over the Christmas season. My brain has died from over food use syndrome. It has also not helped that my sons in the yearly Christmas ritual of canibalising all my batteries for the new toys have left me without a palmpilot or a camera>:XX

  • Kiwi Christmas

    Our friend Callie took this pix of Mt Taranaki yesterday (Christmas).  Kim loves it as this is where she was born and raised.  Scorching hot day here so I am sheltering inside ignoring the kids demanding to play cricket with there new cricket set.  Going swimming after tea.
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  • Christmas

    We are busy getting ready for Christmas. We will have 9 for dinner tomorrow. I am making the trifle which is the greatest event of Christmas if you ask me, will post pix tomorrow of it when I finish.

    We had a family time this morning. We all sat at the table and had french toast with fresh tomatos and basil on top along with fresh brewed coffee. As we ate we read from the message Mathews account of the Christmas story, then we all shared something about how the story spoke to us personally. We then prayed and lit the 4th advent candle. Really cool, casual yet spiritual.

    Have a great Christmas

  • Mega church

    I took the notes below from Peter Linehams article to Vision New Zealand on Mega Church. Some interesting analysis http://www.visionnetwork.org.nz/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&gid=22&Itemid=90

    Younger but not that much younger attend

    More unmarried and divorced attend

    White collar or ethnic makeup

    Urban

    Of the 10 largest churches only 1 is Pentecostal

    Our culture is very imitative of the United States

    New more structured Pentecostal model is emerging

    Underlying the mega church is an awareness of the shrinkage of congregations and the need for new ways to respond.

    Single services in the catholic setting are very much larger than protestant services.

    Mega church reflects a more commercialised society.

    Mega church reflects a more mobile society.

    Competitive elements

    More plastic culture

    In large churches people are often not involved - but don’t mind this

    Members of mc are less involved outside the church 72per cent not involved compared to 65pc average church.

    But higher level of evangelistic groups compared to normal church.

  • Messiah

    We went to the Messiah last night at the town hall. Fabulous as usual. It's the highlight of my musical worship each year. Kim is thinking of joinning the choir next year. Thanks Geoff for looking after the kids.
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  • Liberals aren't so bad?

    Being brought up in the Evangelical Church, the people we most feared (and in reality reviled) was not atheists, Muslims or Cults but Liberals. We felt incredible mistrust at what we saw as there attempted destruction of the Church and the intellectual rationalism they brought with them. We used to gloat at there decline compared to the growth of Conservatism. A common phrase was that 'Liberals don't have spiritual children so liberalism will die out'.

    The reason I mention this is that I was reading on www.tallskinnykiwi.com about some Evangelical groups within the Evangelical Communion putting out what I would call a bit of a kung-fu statement http://www.anglican-mainstream.net/?p=1034 which does seem to be pointed at the liberals within Anglicanism.

    Considering that I have automatically thought of 'Liberal Christians' as the enemy it's amazing for me to reflect about how many of them are people I admire and who have made a real impact on the modern world. In fact the three that come to mind that I think would be classified by most conservatives as liberal would consider as more influential in shaping world events to the better than any conservative evangelical in the last 100 years.

    Here are my favourite three liberals

    Desmond Tutu (Major contributor to halting apartheid and bringing reconciliation to South Africa)

    Martin Luther King (Civil rights and Non Violence)

    Dietrich Bonhoffer (Nazi Martyr, lived for his Christian principles stood up to Hitler when the rest of the German Church didn’t) (Is he liberal, I think so?)

  • Secular Sunday

    Had a bit of a secular Sunday today. I went to the library then took the three boys for a bike ride down the whole of Orewa Beach it was fantastic. Fantastic day. Found three juvinille hammerhead sharks on the beach (not the one pictured). Alex of course had to pick one up and stick his hand into the mouth of another, as boys will do.
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  • Are Pastors Christian or Cultural

    The word Pastor is French for Shepherd. Now I confess that I have no idea why the English speaking church uses a French title but this is not beef. What’s the difference between a Shepherd and a Father? What’s the difference between a protestant Pastor and a Catholic Father? Not a lot to my eye.

    Jesus himself said “But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi’ for you have only one Master and you are all brothers. And do not call anyone on earth ‘Father’, for you have one father, and he is in heaven. Nor are you to be called ‘teacher’ for you have only one teacher the Christ.” (Matt 23: 8 – 11) Now I have heard some pretty convoluted arguments trying to say that Jesus does not mean what he says here, but I personally don’t buy these theories.

    So why do we as people committed to following Jesus and following the Bible as best we can not only ignore Christ’s words but we base our churches and even our own identity (if we are in ministry) on being the opposite of what Jesus said. And whether we are Catholic, Protestant or Orthodox we all do it.

    Why?

    Why do we as protestant pastors especially still mediate between Christ and our congregations (even if we pretend otherwise and use different words) when it was one of the major reasons for us splitting from Catholicism?
    The NT does not show professional pastors or titled leaders. Nor does it show pastors leading churches. And from the early church it appears that this type of titled pyramid leadership model was not in use until Constantine’s time.
    Surely we cannot deny that pastors are a perfect example of syncretism. A blend of the roman state religion morphing with what had been up to then a fluid out of human control rapidly growing bunch of people who followed a guy called Jesus.

    We could say that pastors like Christmas are a reclaimed pagan institution. The only difference is that Jesus was silent about Christmas and vocal about Rabbi’s, Fathers and teachers (but of course Pastors are different!)

    Well that’s my ignorant opinionated opinion on syncretism which does not necessarily mean a lot.

  • Christmas Collage

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  • Another Pastor resigns over homosexuality

    Another Colarado Pastor resigns over homosexuality. Read the article here http://www.denverpost.com/ci_4817067 I got the link from www.tallskinnykiwi.com

    Frankly I do believe that as Christians we do have to look at how we approach Homosexuality, because the way we a re dealing with it which is to ignore it, say its a sin, pray for Gods forgiveness and healing and move on is not working. It seems to me that both these guys have tried to follow through an evangelical Christian model in dealing with there homosexuality and yet it still remains. They asked forgiveness, were desperate to change, went to counselling, were prayed for yet still here they are resigning. We need to break away from our pat answers and find true answers.

    Being honest my years in ministry have made me very doubtful of Christian Counselling, Deliverance and alter calls. They provide an immediate panacea which makes everyone feel that things are resolved but provide no long term change.

    Perhaps it is our framework and Christian world view that needs to change?

  • Christmas Prep

    Kids decorated the tree today, it's a bit tarty but its the thought that counts. Had a barbie tonight. The Christmas Poutakawa's are in bloom, best bit about Christmas Is the Poutakawa's flowering. Had a real nice Savignon Blanc from Hawkesbridge, Marlborough 2005.
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  • Advent Candle

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    This is the spread for family night, note the 1st advent candle lighted in the background and the lettuce salad straight out of my garden in the foreground!

  • Ten Myths About Church Leavers (Alan Jaimieson)

    Despite the almost mantra-like status of the statement "people are leaving the church" there still appears to be little understanding about who is leaving, when they leave, why they leave, and what happens to them and their faith after they leave. Of course everyone has their own view on these issues but few, especially our church leaders, have taken the time to sit down and talk with an actual leaver or two.

    It is much easier dealing with stereotypes than actual people, even if the stereotypes don't help us understand what is really going on. For those interested in moving beyond the stereotypes and asking: "Who are these people who are leaving our churches?" an examination of some myths about church leavers may prove helpful.

    Myth ONE

    It is only the traditional mainline churches that have large numbers of leavers. While it is true that people are leaving the traditional churches1 people are also leaving evangelical, charismatic and Pentecostal churches. These are the churches which have been growing both in New Zealand and overseas. They are the churches which - with their focus on overt biblical teaching, vibrant worship and greater opportunities for participation - have attracted many young converts as well as those disillusioned with the traditional churches.

    However, these growing churches also have a 'back door'. Estimates as to how large this back door is vary depending on who you're talking to. But studies like those done by Elaine Bolitho on the back door in the Baptist churches in New Zealand have shown something of the degree of loss in these so-called 'growing' churches.

    Bolitho's study looked at membership figures for the Baptist churches.2 She found that between 1989 and 1996 the Baptist churches of New Zealand had a small overall membership decline (from 23,601 members to 23,031). However during this period over eleven thousand new members were added to Baptist churches. Taking into account those who died and the fact that Baptist churches had transferred more people in than out, she found that 10,118 members were 'lost' without record.

    This means that for those seven years (1989 to 1996) the net result was a loss of 570 people - a percentage loss of 108% of new members. In effect this means that for every one hundred new members added to the Baptist churches of New Zealand one hundred and eight left. These leavers could not be accounted for as moving to another church or dying.

    This was a substantial increase in back door leavers from previous periods between 1948 and 1988, for which Bolitho provided comparative figures.3

    Figures from Pentecostal churches also point to a large number of church leavers. The Apostolic Church in New Zealand figures, for example, have shown dramatic recent growth, but a closer look at the figures also indicate a steady back door loss rate of approximately 10% per annum.4 If Bolitho's findings and those from the Apostolic church are replicated in other groupings of evangelical, charismatic and Pentecostal churches it indicates that there is a sizeable number (perhaps even a growing number) of leavers from these churches.

    read the rest of the myths here http://www.reality.org.nz/articles/32/32-jamieson.html

  • Multi - Generational church

    Ten years ago elephants were killing 100 people a year in Africa. With elephant numbers expanding it was decided to have an annual cull to lower the numbers of animals and lower the number of people being killed. Ten years later elephant numbers are lower but every year 3500 people are now being killed by elephants.
    Zoologists believe that because the hunters cull the older males and females this has caused a break down in the complex family group relationships. Basically there are no longer any older elephants to model lead and guide the younger animals. This lack of wisdom is highlighted when the elephants are put in stressful situations. The result is less elephants instead of killing fewer than 100 people a year are now killing 3500 people a year.

    Complex animals work best in multi generational groups especially humans. Families, clan’s, multi generational family groups are where people find stability, permanence, wisdom and growth. Basically it is a balanced environment.
    This is especially needed in spiritual communities. To really flourish and develop as a Christian one needs to have both those more mature and less mature than us. We need people who are in different places in life than ourselves. On Sunday we went to the McDonalds gathering. It was neat to see a House Church where you saw children of all ages, teenagers, young families, grown up families and retirees all participating in a spiritual group that was truly multi generational. I truly believe that a multi generational church is an ideal to be desired and is closer to the gathered churches one would have experienced in the New Testament.

    Sadly both Institutional and Organic Church seems to always lean towards specialising when it comes to spiritual matters. Whether it is Youth Groups, Sunday school, senior groups, new Christian groups or even special interest groups we seem much focussed on separating the generations and separating people by spiritual maturity as well. I believe this is one of the major reasons that the Bride of Christ in the West has continually been unable to successfully bring followers through into maturity and especially why the church continues to haemorrhage out Believers once they have moved beyond the youth programmes of church.

    Two years ago radio Rhema interviewed an American who had done a PhD on Youth Groups and their impact on American Churches. His conclusions were staggering. Youth Groups in the short term were very positive and created major gains in its members but the Youth group environment on average also meant the fracturing and declining of the individual’s relationships with other believers of different generations including family and other church members. This breaking of the generational connection from a sociological perspective was considered one of the critical reasons why the large number of teenagers and 20 year olds vanish from church statistics by the time they reach there mid 20’s.

    Whether it is the elephants in Africa, a gang of young men hanging out together, or even a youth group, people of just one generation have more of a propensity towards disfunctionalisim and impermanence then a multi generational group.

    Church is like a jigsaw; each generation whether it is children, teens, singles, couples, senior citizens, New Believers and mature Believers all bring an important piece of the spiritual puzzle to the church.
    Mono generational gatherings can be great and fruitful but different generations put the icing on the spiritual cake.

  • Weird garden - Weird Church

    The Kids did there own weird garden again this spring.  This entails going down to the garden centre and buying garish bright plants coming home and wondering along the grass bank digging a hole and shoving them in as they feal like it.  They even stick some of the plants on tree branches.  Then they walk away from the garden never returning to water it.  This year the spring has been quite wet so the plants have survived and it actually looks quite amazing.

    I know there is some real analogies to the method of planting organic churches but I don't want to go there.
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  • Only 10%

    In a new survey just 10 per cent of New Zealanders say the religious message is the most important thing about Christmas See the rest of the N.Z Christmas survey here http://www.nzherald.co.nz/topic/story.cfm?c_id=500818&objectid=10412739

  • Combo Gathering

    3 gatherings combined together at McDonalds House today for a get together.  In any such combined get together you usually only get half of each gathering but we still had a packed house with about 30 including kids.  It was great to share, encourage one another and lay hands on one another.  It was  great to pray for the Deans who are heading up to a restricted acess nation as well later in the week.
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    While the oldies were being spiritual inside the kids were making the most of a buetiful summers day making utube videos outside.  See here for the action  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey7nrL18uLY

  • Christian Superstars not famous

    Several leaders whom many Christians revere and believe are representing the Christian faith in today's culture are virtually unknown in the U.S. Despite his recent turmoil, Mel Gibson retains one of the best images in Hollywood. Denzel Washington emerged as the public figure with the best image among the 16 people assessed. Rick Warren, who's bestselling book, The Purpose Driven Life, has sold more than 25 million copies -- the biggest selling non-fiction book in U.S. history (other than the Bible) -- remains unknown to most American adults (72% say they've never heard of him, including 2 out of every 3 born again Christians (63%).... http://www.barna.org/FlexPage.aspx?Page=BarnaUpdateNarrowPreview&BarnaUpdateID=251

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