The fact is that we are not produceing saints. We are making converts to an effete type of Christianity that bears little resemblence to that of the New testement. The average so-called Bible Christian in ouur times is but a wretched parody of true sainthood. Yet we put millions of dollors behind movements to perpetuate this degenerate form of religion and attack the man who dares to challange the wisdom of it. (A W Tozier quoted in the book Megashift)

The above quote sums up for me two heart changes that I have experianced. The first is that I may have been a Minister but I was a cardboard cut out Christian with little fruit. I believe if I continued to do and believe as I had then I would not have a chance to become as Tozier puts it a real saint. Now don't get me wrong, I don't think that I am being more effective now (though I'm certainly no worse) but I feel that making a change, breaking free, stopping and hearing God for a momment gives me a greatter chance to become a true Saint instead of a convert.

The other point as you may have guessed is the heart change (or heart cry) to publicaly stand up and question the wisdom (or folly) of what mainlineline Christians do and believe. (sorry about spelling)